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My father-in-law has a Universal Life to Age 95 policy. I posted about this about a year ago, and it has taken us a year to get an in-force illustration from the servicing corporation. :x

I've taken a stab at analyzing this, but would like to ask for others with more experience to weigh in. Specific dates redacted for privacy...

Universal Life, flexible premium adjustable life insurance to age 95
Contract Type: Level
Face amount: $100,000
Issue Age: 30
Current Age: 68
Issue Date: 1985
Maturity Date: 2050
Riders: $100,000 Accidental Death Benefit
Monthly Premium: $67.10
Guaranteed interest rate is 6.00%.
The current credited rate is 6.00%.
Level Death Benefit Option (A) - From Year 39 To Year 65

8.00% premium charge deducted from all premium payments. A policy charge of $4.00 per month is assessed
in all policy years. The cost of insurance is deducted monthly from the cash value. The cost of insurance for columns based on current values are calculated using the 1980 Commissioner's Standard Ordinary Mortality Table, or the company's current rates, if lower. The cost of insurance for columns based on guaranteed values is calculated using the company's guaranteed maximum mortality rate.

Specified Base Face Amount: $100,000.00
Death Benefit Option: Level
Annualized Premium: $805.10
Total Premiums Paid: $31,005.973
Riders and Benefits (charges may apply) : Accelerated Benefit Rider

Gross Accumulated Cash Value: $66,067.21
Outstanding Policy Loan: $0.00
Cash Surrender Value: $66,067.21
Dividend Option: added to the cash value

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INFORCE BASIC LEDGER
FOR SCENARIO WHERE IN-LAW STOPS SENDING IN YEARLY PREMIUM PAYMENT ($0/year)

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                      Guaranteed                                 Non-Guaranteed                      Guaranteed Interest Rate 6.00%             Current Interest Rate 6.00%                      Guaranteed Charges                         Current Charges                      Net                                        NetEOY  Age  AnnualzdPrem NetCashVal NetCashSurrend  NetDeathBeneft NetCashVal  NetCashSurrend NetDeathBenefit 39   69   268          67,281     67,281          100,000        67,305      67,305         100,00040   70   0            70,269     70,269          100,000        70,369      70,369         100,000TOTAL 268                                                                                   41   71   0            73,442     73,442          100,000        73,660      73,660         100,00042   72   0            76,813     76,813          100,000        77,231      77,231         100,00043   73   0            80,448     80,448          100,000        81,076      81,076         100,00044   74   0            84,378     84,378          100,000        85,225      85,225         100,00045   75   0            88,668     88,668          100,000        89,738      89,738         100,000TOTAL 268                                                                                   46   76   0            93,407     93,407          100,000        94,696      94,696         100,00047   77   0            98,644     98,644          103,576        100,085     100,085        105,08948   78   0            104,177    104,177         109,386        105,760     105,760        111,04849   79   0            109,991    109,991         115,490        111,733     111,733        117,32050   80   0            116,093    116,093         121,898        118,014     118,014        123,915TOTAL 268                                                                                   51   81   0            122,493    122,493         128,617        124,615     124,615        130,84652   82   0            129,197    129,197         135,656        131,522     131,522        138,09853   83   0            136,209    136,209         143,020        138,761     138,761        145,69954   84   0            143,532    143,532         150,709        146,338     146,338        153,65555   85   0            151,167    151,167         158,726        154,258     154,258        161,971TOTAL 26856   86   0            159,118    159,118         167,074        162,527     162,527        170,65357   87   0            167,387    167,387         175,757        171,153     171,153        179,71058   88   0            175,978    175,978         184,777        180,141     180,141        189,14859   89   0            184,895    184,895         194,140        189,502     189,502        198,97760   90   0            194,141    194,141         203,848        199,240     199,240        209,202TOTAL 268                                                                                   61   91   0            203,715    203,715         213,901        209,362     209,362        219,83062   92   0            214,115    214,115         222,680        220,310     220,310        229,12363   93   0            225,483    225,483         232,247        232,217     232,217        239,18364   94   0            237,987    237,987         242,746        245,239     245,239        250,14365   95   0            251,836    251,836         254,354        259,567     259,567        262,163TOTAL 268                                       
INFORCE BASIC LEDGER
FOR SCENARIO WHERE IN-LAW MAINTAINS CURRENT PREMIUM PAYMENT ($805/yr)

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                      Guaranteed                                 Non-Guaranteed                      Guaranteed Interest Rate 6.00%             Current Interest Rate 6.00%                      Guaranteed Charges                         Current Charges                      Net                                        NetEOY  Age  AnnualzdPrem NetCashVal NetCashSurrend  NetDeathBeneft NetCashVal  NetCashSurrend NetDeathBenefit 39   69   268          67,281     67,281          100,000        67,305      67,305         100,00040   70   805          71,047     71,047          100,000        71,146      71,146         100,000TOTAL 1,074                                                                                 41   71   805          75,075     75,075          100,000        75,287      75,287         100,00042   72   805          79,394     79,394          100,000        79,789      79,789         100,00043   73   805          84,084     84,084          100,000        84,663      84,663         100,00044   74   805          89,203     89,203          100,000        89,959      89,959         100,00045   75   805          94,841     94,841          101,480        95,745      95,745         102,447TOTAL 5,100                                                      46   76   743          100,919    100,919         105,965        101,925     101,925        107,02147   77   729          107,304    107,304         112,669        108,423     108,423        113,84548   78   729          114,019    114,019         119,720        115,268     115,268        121,03149   79   729          121,077    121,077         127,131        122,473     122,473        128,59750   80   729          128,490    128,490         134,915        130,054     130,054        136,557TOTAL 8,759                                                                                 51   81   729          136,270    136,270         143,084        138,025     138,025        144,92652   82   729          144,424    144,424         151,645        146,372     146,372        153,69053   83   729          152,960    152,960         160,608        155,124     155,124        162,88154   84   729          161,880    161,880         169,974        164,292     164,292        172,50655   85   729          171,188    171,188         179,747        173,879     173,879        182,573TOTAL 12,40556   86   729          180,888    180,888         189,932        183,897     183,897        193,09257   87   729          190,985    190,985         200,534        194,353     194,353        204,07158   88   729          201,483    201,483         211,557        205,257     205,257        215,52059   89   729          212,389    212,389         223,008        216,619     216,619        227,45060   90   729          223,706    223,706         234,891        228,447     228,447        239,870TOTAL 16,052                                                                                61   91   729          235,434    235,434         247,206        240,749     240,749        252,78762   92   729          248,151    248,151         258,077        254,037     254,037        264,19863   93   729          262,023    262,023         269,884        268,464     268,464        276,51864   94   729          277,253    277,253         282,798        284,217     284,217        289,90265   95   729          294,087    294,087         297,028        301,523     301,523        304,539TOTAL 19,698
The guaranteed cost of insurance table from original 1985 contract shows significant cost of insurance increases.

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1985Contract TableAge   RatePerMoPer1K66  1.9567  2.1568  2.3769  2.6170  2.8871  3.2472  3.5473  3.9574  4.4175  4.976  5.4277  5.9778  6.5379  7.1480  7.881  8.5482  9.3783  10.3184  11.3485  12.4386  13.5687  14.7388  15.989  17.190  18.3491  19.6592  21.0693  22.6394  24.63
1) In-law is considering withdrawing the cash value and surrendering the policy, and I'm inclined to agree. In-law has zero debt, house and cars are all paid for, low monthly expenses, is in great physical shape and still working. Would love to get some opinions from Bogleheads...
2) On the INFORCE ILLUSTRATION, I noticed a line "Level Death Benefit Option (A) - From Year 39 To Year 65". I don't see anything int the original 1985 contract that mentions that. Can anyone explain what that means?

Statistics: Posted by Rd123123 — Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:40 am — Replies 1 — Views 63



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